Analyzing the 2016 V.P. Debate Between Kaine and Pence

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Analyzing the 2016 V.P. Debate Between Kaine and Pence

This isn't Mike Pence’s first vice-presidential marketing campaign debate. In 2016, he confronted Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, Hillary Clinton’s


This isn’t Mike Pence’s first vice-presidential marketing campaign debate. In 2016, he confronted Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, Hillary Clinton’s working mate. It was a vigorous and contentious 90 minutes, and it offers a touch of what Mr. Pence is perhaps like on Wednesday night time when he debates Senator Kamala Harris, the Democratic vice-presidential candidate.

And a evaluation of that 2016 matchup leaves little question that Mr. Pence is aware of the 2 issues a vice-presidential candidate is meant to do in a debate. The primary is to defend the particular person on the prime of your ticket, on this case President Trump. The second is to assault the particular person on the prime of the opposing ticket: Mrs. Clinton in 2016, and Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020.

Mr. Kaine attacked Mr. Trump at each alternative, and Mr. Pence was prepared. He diligently defended his working mate. However usually, as was the case on this clip, he defended Mr. Trump and rapidly pivoted to speak about what a Trump administration would do, or to assault President Barack Obama or Mrs. Clinton. He presumably didn’t need the controversy to show right into a referendum on Mr. Trump, and virtually actually is coming into this yr’s debate with an identical technique. That’s more likely to be tougher this time: Mr. Trump has been president for 4 years, the nation has been slammed by a pandemic, and Mr. Trump himself is sick.

Mr. Pence was energetic in attacking Mrs. Clinton, amplifying and increasing on the assaults Mr. Trump was making on the marketing campaign path. “There’s a cause why individuals query the trustworthiness of Hillary Clinton and that’s as a result of they’re paying consideration,” he stated, easily delivering one of many extra memorable (if little question scripted) strains of the night time. Mr. Biden has proved to be a extra elusive goal than Mrs. Clinton, however the type of assault on her document Wednesday night time is more likely to be reprised. (This change can also be instructive in how Mr. Pence was in a position to hold management of the microphone regardless of Mr. Kaine’s effort to derail him.)

Mr. Pence was simply as vigorous in attacking Mr. Kaine’s document as governor of Virginia, although a lot of this assault appears meant to construct up his personal credentials as governor of Indiana. Voters don’t make their choices in presidential races based mostly on the working mates, so there was little cause for Mr. Pence to spend an excessive amount of time on Mr. Kaine.

The dynamic is completely different this yr. Mr. Trump, annoyed in his efforts to assail Mr. Biden, has tried to painting Ms. Harris as a far-left Democrat who could be the actual energy within the White Home ought to Mr. Biden win. Given the ages of the 2 males on the prime of the ticket — Mr. Trump is 74, Mr. Biden is 77 — and Mr. Trump’s Covid-19 analysis, a transparent subtext of this matchup is that both Ms. Harris or Mr. Pence may very well be president in the future.

Mr. Pence was pressured to defend Mr. Trump on a problem that’s more likely to come up once more on Wednesday: the president’s success at minimizing his federal tax invoice. It was the topic of tales in The New York Instances in 2016 and in 2020, each revealed simply earlier than the vice-presidential debates.

Mr. Pence was ready for the query — arguing, as Mr. Trump has, that his working mate was a wise businessman who minimized his tax invoice. “Donald Trump is a enterprise man, not a profession politician,” he stated. Bonus on this change: Mr. Pence avoids answering the query of why Mr. Trump has not, as pledged, launched his tax returns. (He nonetheless has not.)

Throughout his debate with Mr. Kaine, Mr. Pence addressed a problem that was central in 2016 and that has returned in 2020: regulation and order. Mr. Pence makes use of a query about his views in regards to the criticism of regulation enforcement to speak about his household background, earlier than belittling critics of the police. “My uncle was a cop,” he stated, occurring to pay tribute to the police. From there, Mr. Pence denounced the “bad-mouthing” of regulation enforcement by critics who accuse the police of bias or “institutional racism.”

If Mr. Trump has his manner, the difficulty of regulation and order might be much more central to this election. Mr. Trump has argued that placing Democrats in management would result in a spike in dysfunction and crime, pointing to among the demonstrations which have swept via American cities this summer season. Mr. Pence may be anticipated to say a lot the identical factor on Wednesday night time. To this point, there’s little proof that law-and-order is capturing voters’ consideration the best way the pandemic has, or that Mr. Trump is being lifted politically by that difficulty.



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